
Interview by Si Smith

Otep Shamaya is something of a legend, whether it be for her beliefs, her poetry or her onstage energy. So it was with a breath of trepidation that I approached this interview, although the OTEP I have seen in other interviews is far from a diva - she is a down-to-earth, lovely personality who seems to have successfully managed not to be sucked into that whole "rock star" mentality. So on behalf of Femme Metal I approached her with a gaggle of freshly-prepared questions....
First of all, thanks for this interview, we hope you are well and all at Femme Metal welcome you today.
I appreciate the opportunity. Thank you.
"The press" is already familiar with the up-to-date figure of Otep Shamaya - but what was it like when you first started? Was metal your first choice of genre?
I wanted to create music that sounded like I felt inside. Aggressive music seemed to be the perfect fit.
You sing so confidently and boldly now: did that come naturally, or was it something you had to learn as time progressed?
Being timid never felt natural to me. If you’re going to be onstage, you have to own it. Follow Artaud, challenge the audience, incite them, inspire them, anything but allow them to be passive.
There is a much told story about being singled out by Sharon Osborne and Ozzfest....would you like to fill in the details for us, as I think it has become a legend and Chinese whispers have mutated the story over time. What was the reality of that experience for you?
"Chinese whispers" I’m not sure I am comfortable with the term but I believe I understand your question and intention. To the meat: at the time, we were just another unsigned band on the Sunset Strip in Los Angeles. It was our 4th show, I think, and we opened for Cold. We slayed. After the show, backstage, someone came to me and said, "Sharon would like to speak with you". I told them I didn’t know any Sharon and that I needed a quiet moment to come down from the show - back then, performing took a terrible emotional toll on me - but they were emphatic, "It’s Sharon Osbourne". I was still confused, "Who?" I replied. "THE Sharon Osbourne, wife of Ozzy!". It hit me. I stood up, a little confused and a tad anxious and went to meet her. She grabbed me, gave me a huge hug and said, "Otep you’re going to be on Ozzfest this year". It was like winning an award. "But we don’t have a label or an album", I said. She smiled, "I don’t care. Make it happen". Luckily, we had several showcases that week with a few record label suits and the rest is history. Sharon has always been so supportive and a source of inspiration to me. We’ve lost touch over the years, but I will never forget her strength and passion.
You are well known for anthems such as "Rise, rebel, resist" and "Smash the Control Machine". How important is the idea of "resistance" to your poetry and your music?
Art is resistance. There is no other way.
You have never hidden your beliefs under a bushel, whether it be your food preferences or your sexual preferences. Have you ever regretted being so open about your life in the public eye? What are the highest and lowest points of such a transparent persona?
Again, interesting selection of words. Being Sapphic isn’t a preference. I don’t prefer to be gay. I am gay. It’s not a choice I could make. Religion is a choice. Having freckles, being right-handed, having green eyes, being gay, those are not choices. That clear, I must say that I sometimes regret the scrutiny of the public eye. But it’s part of the business I did “choose” to enter into.
Your on-stage and on-screen identity is a tough, strong one with much raising of the middle finger! Who is the real OTEP when the audience is gone and the cameras are off?
I consider myself a noble savage. I enjoy intellectual nourishment, quiet moments away from the fires inside my mind, creating art, bohemian revelry, sunrises over sunsets. I’m more than just the banshee screaming on the albums, but that is a part of my artistic identity.
Your lyrics and your performance are all full of passion and self-belief, and I am fascinated by where all your passion comes from. What would you say are the significant parts of your past that makes you the person you are today?
I grew up poor in a multicultural neighborhood. It was quite distinct however because just across the street was a much richer class of families. We could see them with their manicured yards, nice cars, new clothes, calm demeanors - while we were constantly in chaos. Some of the kids across the street were friends but some were snobs for no other reason than who they were born to. I knew I was smarter than most of them, had more talents, I could play sports or fight as well (most times better) than the boys, so I never bought into the idea of "knowing my place". The hardest part of that environment was living on my side of the block, with kids just like me, families just like mine, but because we were different religions or different races, we could never get together. We allowed the petty sectarian differences to define us and divide us. I knew it was wrong then, I know it’s wrong now, I see it happening, I see those who take advantage of it, and I am compelled to speak out about it. I still can’t abide a bully. I still want to compete, to fight, to set things right. I hope I always do.
Your track "Head" was featured in HBO's True Blood. Many viewers said that they couldn't get this song out of their heads afterwards and looked up your music and poetry. Others were more cynical at the "best poet of the 21st century" ‘sinking’ to taking a TV slot. What did you personally think of this opportunity? How much attention do you give what "the public" say about you?I am a huge fan of the TRUE BLOOD series and this was an honor. The sequence they chose to play my song over was a perfect visual representation for the spirit of HEAD. I hope I have more opportunities like that one.
Your track "Head" was featured in HBO's "True Blood". Many viewers said that they couldn't get this song out of their heads afterwards and looked up your music and poetry. Others were more cynical at the "best poet of the 21st century" ‘sinking’ to taking a TV slot. What did you personally think of this opportunity? How much attention do you give what "the public" say about you?
I am a huge fan of the "True Blood" series and this was an honor. The sequence they chose to play my song over was a perfect visual representation for the spirit of "Head". I hope I have more opportunities like that one.
Ok, moving on to the new album "Atavist" Is there a central theme, or collection of themes that you would like a listener to take away from this album? Is atavism in itself a good or a bad thing do you think?
One of the reasons I wrote "Atavist" is to inspire the people that listen to the music to break the chains that bury them. Be brutal, be beautiful, BE YOU! I spent too many years hating my life. I can't go back now. But they can go forward.
At the time of writing this the album has not yet been released, but we have been allowed some teasers:
a) "Not To Touch The Earth" was a Doors cover song that was based on a Jim Morrison poem, and also two subchapters of James Frazer's "The Golden Bough" (supposedly the inspiration for Morrison) that dealt with taboos and superstitious traditions. What was your personal reason for releasing this song as a teaser for the new album? Did it have any special meaning for you?
I am a huge Doors fan. Their music started me on my journey to explore the spiritual marriage of poetry, emotion, and music.
b) A short preview of "Drunk on the Blood of Saints" was put out by Victory Records for streaming (just a few days ago as I write this). Could you tell us the rationale behind this song?
It was written in the wake of the shooting in Tucson, Arizona and all the nitwits like Palin and Fred Phelps who tried using the tragedy for their own selfish gain.
c) The art work is amazing! That central figure seems to contain almost all the imagery related to womankind that has been used throughout history, from sexual to mythological (Medusa) to the three-fold woman figure (mother, maiden, crone) revered by pagans even today. What do you feel it says about the reality of the female being?
We are as mysterious as we think, stronger than we believe, and are capable of unlimited potential.
Looking at this new release compared to your back catalogue, would you say that your sound has changed much on the newer material? Or your lyrical observations?
Evolution has always been part of my artistic goals.
OTEP live is a really once in a lifetime experience, and I am sure you will tour on the strength of this new album? What can audiences expect from OTEP live in 2011?
As always, a complete and total mutiny of the senses.
In the past, and presently, it has been very difficult for artists and poets to make a living out of what they do. Do you think you will ever reach a stage where you will sit on your laurels and think "Ok, I've made it, I don't need to do any more", or is the drive within you too strong to ever let you do that? As a successful rock personality, how do you keep yourself anchored in the real world?
I doubt I will ever feel complete. I am too ambitious, too driven, too competitive, too unhappy about my own abilities to ever relinquish.
Your output as a poet has been quite prolific over the years. Looking back over all the art you have produced, is there one particular lyric or line of poetry that you consider your finest work? Would you like to share it with us?
The best line is always the next line ....waiting to be written.
Girl goes Grrr says "Art is the best way to say f*** you to reality". How much would you say your lyrics reflect society as a whole? Are the rest of the band all of a similar viewpoint to you on life, the universe and everything?
Artists are sponges, we soak up the world then we get squeezed dry.
Ok, you are suddenly made the president of the United States. What would your major policies be?
I wouldn’t want the job.
OTEP, there are so many questions I am sure that many people would like to ask you if given half the chance. So here is YOUR chance. If there is one question you WISH people would ask, what would it be? Alternatively, what is the one thing YOU would wish to communicate to people out there?
Ask me? Nothing. Ask themselves? Plenty. Are you happy? If not, why not?
And just for the record, if people want to read some more of your poetry, where should they look?
Finally, I can only say thank you, it has been a real honor to speak with you, we at Femme Metal wish you happiness and that the deep well of your poetic creativity may never run dry!!!
Much appreciated. Thank you for the opportunity.
Photo Credit
Both Otep Shamaya photos by Djosefin Maurer
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